It may not display this or other websites correctly. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I agree that a 9.3x57 Gew 88 would be a very cool and unique sporter but on the other hand I'm still wondering if it is really worth putting a $200+ barrel on a $30 gun. It should feed well (not sure about length) and I don't think the pressure would be excessive with moderate loads. The commission rifle saw field service with Germany's colonial expansion, including in China during the Boxer Rebellion (with the Gewehr 88s and the unlicensed Hanyang 88 copies also being used by the opposing Chinese troops),[5] and served as a front line weapon for German troops during World War I until 1915 when the supply of Gewehr 98s increased. I use Sellier & Bellot 196gr SPCE for hunting with my old Mausers and mil-surp for plinking and banging around practice. I'll probably keep one in the original 8x57 but I don't see why you couldn't do something like 30-06. Do you think it would be possible for me to convert it to 9.3 myself using CNC machines? After these claims were found insupportable, Ahlwardt was sentenced to 4 months in prison for malicious falsehood.[3][4]. Used by the paramilitary Rifle Union, the rest were kept in the storage and were re-barreled before World War II. I got it with an old Turk marked bayonet an an incorrect US canvas sling. Those suitable for the then standard .323" bullet S cartridge were stamped with a Z-prefix registration number, while those deemed suitable only for the limited standard old .318" bullet Patrone 88 cartridge got a D-prefix number. inch for the round nose and 17.5 tons for the pointed nose. The case coloring is pretty on these old guns. One of my older loading manuals had data specifically for the Gew 88's. Haenels civilian rifles on the Commission action followed the German hunting rifle style that existed since the advent of centerfire cartridges. There was usually a stock-bolt in the fore-end, and sometimes they were fitted with receiver sights. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Without it the front of the action and back of the barrel aren't supported and there is only one screw holding the entire thing to the stock! .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} If I use the original barrel I can just cut off the first inch of the barrel jacket, screw it on and solder it or something to provide a solid base. 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Gewehr 88 rifles were also used in the Spanish Civil War by both sides. Much confusing information has been spread through the years about the German round nose and pointed bullet 7.9 ammunition. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. HONORS [+] Ribbon graphics not necessarily indicative of actual historical campaign ribbons. Although I have never been a big fan of the 857 there is absolutely nothing wrong with this cartridge as it is right up their with the ubiquitous 30-06. According to Ahlwardt's claims, Loewe would either deliberately supply the German army with insufficient rifles, or, along with other Jews, secretly exchange rifles with flawed ones after they had passed the reliability tests. Haenal7mm-1.jpg Haenal7mm-2.jpg Haenal7mm-3.jpg Haenal7mm-4.jpg Haenal7mm-5.jpg. many more doors open up with a turk. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{margin-top:12px}._136QdRzXkGKNtSQ-h1fUru{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:8px 0;width:100%}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_,._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor)} Right now I'm thinking that whatever caliber I keep it in will be based on the x57 case to insure the rifle won't have trouble feeding the rounds. These rifles when found as sporting arms are often known as the Mannlicher-Haenel or Schilling-Mannlicher, because the names of those manufacturers sometimes appear on them. As a result, the number of minor variations seems endless. 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You have entered an incorrect email address! .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} While the majority were chambered for the standard military 857 cartridge (usually the original .318 bullet, rather than the later .323) they were also offered in pure hunting cartridges like the 957. [9] At the beginning of World War II some Gewehr 88 rifles were still in use, by second line units or paramilitary organizations (or partisans) in Poland[10] and Yugoslavia. The practical result was that the French rifle had greater accuracy and range, and needed cleaning much less often, giving French troops a tactical advantage over the German Army. (SOME German hunting rifles today are made with the old J- bore dimensions, but that doesnt concern us in the States). Some idea of the tremendous extent of these manufacturing operations may be gained from the following figures: The rifle barrel required 54 operations to complete. In general, yes, a Kar 88 or Gew 88. It was made for the pre-98 actions. Hoosier Gun Works Online Catalog Not all of our inventory is listed, more coming in Daily RIFLE, AND FULL SIZE SHOT GUN LENGTH SHOTGUN STOCKS LISTED BELOW. 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